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C6 Roof Noise GM Bulletin Fix
I just bought a 2007 Corvette C6 T-Top. While Im driving,
Resolved Question:
There is a technical service bulletin out that outlines the various problems with the t-top noise and the possible fixes. I have included it below for you.
TECHNICAL
Bulletin No.: 08-08-67-013C
Date: July 14, 2009
Subject: Snap, Pop, Creak or Rattle Noise From Lift Off Roof Panel While Driving (Verify Condition and Perform Appropriate Repairs)
Models:
2005-2010 Chevrolet Corvette
Equipped with Removable Clear Roof Panel (RPO CC3), Removable Sun Roof Panel (RPO CF7) or Dual Removable Roof Panels (RPO C2L)
Supercede:
This bulletin is being revised to add the 2010 model year. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-08-67-013B (Section 08 - Body and Accessories).
Important
Check the VIN to determine if the roof falls into the Safety Recall 06041C. On painted roofs, inspect the panel beneath the headliner. If the material is light gray in color, then the roof is Sheet Molded Compound (SMC) and is not in need of the recall. If the panel is charcoal in color, then the roof is Acrylonitrile/ Butadiene-Styrene (ABS) and should have been involved with the recall. Follow the procedure outlined in the recall to check to see if there is any separation between the adhesive and the roof panel. If there are any signs of separation, the roof should be replaced, following the details in the recall.
Important
If the roof is not involved in the recall or is the transparent roof, verify the roof is a GM roof. Check GMVIS to determine if the vehicle came with a painted or transparent roof. GMVIS will indicate option codes CF7 for a painted roof, CC3 for a transparent roof and C2L if the car was produced with both roofs.
Important
The intent of this bulletin is to identify the appropriate issue(s) and apply the appropriate correction(s) pertaining to the customer's comments. PLEASE VERIFY CUSTOMER CONCERN BEFORE SERVICE. Drive the vehicle and duplicate the complaint. Note where the noise is coming from, paying particular attention to the following specific areas of the roof:
| - | The rear center |
| - | The rear outer edges |
| - | The sides, above the door glass |
| - | The front center |
| - | The front edges
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This bulletin covers the following issues:
| - | Clicking or popping noise coming from the rear area of the door (Refer to Condition #1) |
| - | Roof weatherstrip itch (Refer to Condition #2) |
| - | Snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise coming from the roof, rear center (Refer to Condition #3) |
| - | Snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise coming from the roof, rear outer edges (Refer to Condition #4) |
| - | Snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise from the roof sides, above the door window (Refer to Condition #5) |
| - | Snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise from the roof near the windshield, at the front latch area (Refer to Condition #6) |
| - | Snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise from the "A" pillar area (Refer to Condition #7)
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Condition #1
Some customers may comment of a clicking or popping noise coming from the rear area of the door.
Cause
There have been reported cases of a clicking noise coming from the door striker area. This condition may be a result of the door striker studs loosening slightly and flexing. Pinpoint the location of the noise by removing the lift off roof panel and driving the car with the windows in the full up position.
Correction
Verify the striker is flexing by pulling outward on the striker and listening for a clicking noise. If the noise is evident, replace the striker. Refer to Door Striker Replacement, in SI.
Condition #2
Important
The roof of the car is flexible and there is always some movement between the roof and the body. It is important to keep weatherstrips clean and lubricated to allow the roof to have movement without noise. The number one reason for noise in the roof area is often found to be weatherstripitch.
Some customers may comment on an itch noise coming from the roof panel.
Cause #1
The roof weatherstrips may be dirty, or lacking lubrication.
Cause #2
The customer may have applied a silicon spray such as Armor-all, or plastic cleaners, to the weatherstrips. These can leave a residue on theweatherstrip which may cause the roof to make noise.
Correction
| 1. | Remove the lift off roof panel and clean all weatherstrips with a mild soap and water solution. |
| 2. | Check weatherstrips for damage. |
| 3. | Apply a thin coating of GM Super Lube(R) with PTFE, P/N 12371287 (In Canada, P/N 10953437) to all weatherstrips. |
| 4. | Reinstall the roof panel.
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Test drive the car with the roof panel installed. If a noise is still present, note the particular area of the noise and use the following conditions/guidelines to determine the necessary repair.
Condition #3
Some customers may comment of a snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise coming from the roof, rear center area.
Cause
This condition may be caused by any of the following:
| - | Insufficient clearance between the lift off roof panel and the leading edge of the rear roof bow. |
| - | Possible crack at the rear edge of the lift off roof panel. |
| - | Insufficient tension on the roof rear latching mechanism.
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Correction
Important
There should be between 3-8 mm (0.120-0.315 in) of space between the lift off roof panel and the rear roof bow.
| 1. | Verify there is sufficient gap, and that the lift off roof panel is not hitting the leading edge of the rear roof bow. If this condition exists, adjust the roof panel. Refer to Roof Lift Off Panel Adjustment in SI. |
| 2. |
Inspect the rear edge of the lift off roof panel for cracks or chips. If a roof panel is dropped, or has been set down hard on the rear edge, it may crack the edge and cause a noise. |
| Check the roof rear latching mechanism. The rear latch should have some resistance when the latch is closed. If there is insufficient tension on the latch, the roof may be allowed to move too easily. Adjust the latch by rotating the "J" hook of the latch inward to tighten, and outward to loosen.
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Condition #4
Some customers may comment of a snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise coming from the roof, rear outboard edges.
Cause
The rear locator pins on the lift off roof panel may be loose, or someone may have attempted to adjust the height of the roof panel to this location.
Correction
| 1. | Remove the rear roof bow trim panel. Refer to Rear Roof Bow Trim Panel Replacement in SI.
Important Prior to alignment, ensure that the lift off roof panel rear locator bracket bolts are torqued to specification.
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| 2. | Verify proper alignment of the rear locator pins and the rear locators. Refer to Roof Lift Off Panel Adjustment in SI. |
| 3. | Apply a coating of GM Super Lube (R) with PTFE, P/N 12371287 (In Canada, P/N 10953437) to the rear locating pins (1) on the roof panel AND the rear locators on the roof bow. This will help to insulate the pins and prevent noise from radiating through the roof panel. |
| 4. | Reinstall the rear roof bow trim panel. Refer to Rear Roof Bow Trim Panel Replacement in SI.
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Condition #5
Some customers may comment of a snap, pop, creak, or rattle coming from the side of the roof, above the door window.
Cause
The upper edge of the door windows may be contacting one or more of the screws that attach the roof weatherstrip retainers to the lift off roof panel.
Correction
Inspect the front leading edge of the door windows on both sides for evidence of contact with these screws. This is best done by completing the following steps:
| 1. | Lower both door windows and run your fingernail across the edge of the glass, feeling for chips. |
| 2. | If a chip is detected, place a crayon mark on the window below the chip so it can be seen when the window is in the full up position. |
| 3. | Close the door, raise the window and note the position of the crayon mark at the weatherstrip. |
| 4. | Open the door and check that location for a screw in the weatherstrip retainer. Ensure that the screw is fully seated and there are no burrs on the screw head. |
| 5. | Reseat the screw or adjust the door window down to make sure the window is no longer contacting the screw. Check that all weatherstrip retainer screws are fully seated.
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Condition #6
Some customers may comment of a snap, pop, creak, or rattle noise coming from the roof near the windshield, at the front latch area.
Cause
This condition may be caused by the nylon roller inside the left and/or right front roof panel latching handle becoming loose and causing the roller to move on the pin, creating the noise.
Correction
Important
For any latch handle replacement, use only P/Ns 19206591 (left) and 19206592 (right). These current handles have a revised roller that was redesigned so it does not roll, but now slides across the latch receiver. All 2009-2010 removable roofs (painted and transparent) have the new handle design.
If the noise is verified to be coming from the front latch area, remove the latch handles (1) and inspect the handle roller. Refer to Roof Lift Off Panel Front Latch Handle Replacement in SI. identify the design, and the resulting repair, from the two choices below:
If the roller is round and will spin on its axis (as shown above), they are early design handles and should be replaced. Replace the left and right front lift off roof panel handles with the current handle design parts noted previously, and include the lubrication steps below.
Important
Unless there is a concern with the handles or the roller, there is no need to replace the latch handles if they are of the current design.
| - | If the roller is rounder on the contact side (1), and is flat and secured on the latch side (2), they are current design and DO NOT need replacement. Reinstall the left and right front lift off roof panel handles, and include the lubrication steps below.
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| 1. | When reinstalling the handles add a small amount of GM Super Lube (R) with PTFE, to the barrel of the handle attaching bolt. DO NOT get lube on the bolt threads as it will reduce the effectiveness of the tread locking compound. |
